1 00:00:13,889 --> 00:00:14,889 Moscow, 2 00:00:19,330 --> 00:00:23,390 Idaho. You have these four friends in the prime of their lives, they're 3 00:00:23,390 --> 00:00:25,710 the college experience, and it all changes. 4 00:00:31,340 --> 00:00:36,480 That sense of security that they had. We're all a bit shocked. I'm totally 5 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:38,040 freaking out right now. Was shattered. 6 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,560 Is she breathing? 7 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,860 No. I have already sent the ambulance and law enforcement straight on the 8 00:00:45,060 --> 00:00:46,400 The whole house is a crime scene. 9 00:00:56,830 --> 00:01:01,650 Last night, Federal Bureau of Investigation, the arrested 28 -year 10 00:01:01,650 --> 00:01:03,850 Christopher Kohlberger. 11 00:01:04,150 --> 00:01:07,750 This is one of the most talked -about true crime cases in modern American 12 00:01:07,750 --> 00:01:12,130 history. He may have been a little odd or a little off, but, like, other than 13 00:01:12,130 --> 00:01:15,490 that, you'd never expect someone to do something like this. 14 00:01:16,850 --> 00:01:21,650 You hadn't attacked them in their sleep, in the middle of the night, like a 15 00:01:21,650 --> 00:01:24,150 pedophile. Evil walked into that house. 16 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,860 stole their lives, Kaylee would have kicked your fucking ass. 17 00:01:58,190 --> 00:02:04,010 This call out of Moscow, Idaho, on what should have been just regular, calm fall 18 00:02:04,010 --> 00:02:08,610 morning, would mark the beginning of an incredibly dark chapter that would 19 00:02:08,610 --> 00:02:10,190 captivate the entire nation. 20 00:02:10,669 --> 00:02:17,610 November 13th, 2022, roommates DM and BF, they wake up after spending the 21 00:02:17,610 --> 00:02:21,330 in BF's room on the first floor of the house on King Road. 22 00:02:21,710 --> 00:02:25,650 Are you with the patient? Okay, I need someone to keep the phone. Stop passing 23 00:02:25,650 --> 00:02:26,409 it around. 24 00:02:26,410 --> 00:02:29,470 What is going on currently? Is someone passed out right now? 25 00:02:30,330 --> 00:02:32,830 I don't really know, but pretty much at 4 a .m. 26 00:02:33,070 --> 00:02:36,430 Okay, I need to know what's going on right now if someone is passed out. Can 27 00:02:36,430 --> 00:02:37,309 find that out? 28 00:02:37,310 --> 00:02:38,310 Come on, let me go check. 29 00:02:39,430 --> 00:02:40,610 She's not waking up. 30 00:02:42,510 --> 00:02:44,110 Get out, get out, get out. 31 00:02:45,550 --> 00:02:47,070 Sorry, they just gave me the phone. 32 00:02:47,330 --> 00:02:48,570 Is she breathing? No. 33 00:02:49,450 --> 00:02:53,870 They had been texting their other roommates. They had texted Maddie, 34 00:02:54,050 --> 00:02:57,990 Ethan, Kaylee, trying to get a hold of them. And when they couldn't, they were 35 00:02:57,990 --> 00:02:59,910 really, really freaked out. 36 00:03:00,710 --> 00:03:02,310 Tell me exactly what's going on. 37 00:03:02,570 --> 00:03:07,090 One of our, one of the roommates has passed out and she was drunk last night 38 00:03:07,090 --> 00:03:08,090 she's not waking up. 39 00:03:08,470 --> 00:03:11,170 Oh, and they saw some man in their house last night. 40 00:03:12,730 --> 00:03:18,090 They reached out to a friend of theirs who lived across the street and DM said, 41 00:03:18,590 --> 00:03:21,030 Something really strange happened in the house last night. 42 00:03:21,310 --> 00:03:24,730 Can you and Hunter, her boyfriend, come over and check the house? 43 00:03:25,390 --> 00:03:29,670 Hunter walked upstairs, and he told everybody to get out of the house. 44 00:03:30,310 --> 00:03:33,790 The police walked into really what can only be described as a nightmare 45 00:03:33,790 --> 00:03:38,770 scenario. They walked into a crime scene with four grisly, murdered bodies, a 46 00:03:38,770 --> 00:03:42,010 scene that none of them were expecting, and more importantly, none of them were 47 00:03:42,010 --> 00:03:43,010 prepared for. 48 00:03:43,210 --> 00:03:47,690 The idea that we had a quadruple homicide, my brain just didn't 49 00:03:47,690 --> 00:03:50,850 initially. I don't think anybody can prepare for that. 50 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:56,770 For the first time ever, we are seeing images from inside the house, and it is 51 00:03:56,770 --> 00:04:00,290 exposing details of this story that we never knew before. 52 00:04:28,890 --> 00:04:29,890 Okay, 53 00:04:32,410 --> 00:04:33,289 stay back. 54 00:04:33,290 --> 00:04:34,330 Stay back there, please. 55 00:04:34,690 --> 00:04:40,570 What the fuck? 56 00:04:41,630 --> 00:04:42,630 Let's slow down. 57 00:04:44,050 --> 00:04:45,050 Come here. 58 00:04:46,010 --> 00:04:47,010 There's two. 59 00:04:47,530 --> 00:04:48,570 Let's take a picture of these. 60 00:04:50,450 --> 00:04:51,470 Russell, please comment. 61 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:04,789 It's okay. 62 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:05,790 It's all right. 63 00:05:06,270 --> 00:05:13,010 Please comment. 64 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,440 There didn't appear to be any forced entry. When they entered the house, they 65 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,720 went up to the second floor, and that's where they found Zanna Kernodle lying 66 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,820 there in her underwear and a sweatshirt. In a nearby bed was Zanna's boyfriend, 67 00:05:47,140 --> 00:05:48,140 Ethan Chapin. 68 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:51,340 Zanna Kernodle had over 50 stab wounds on her body. 69 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,700 When the officers went to the third floor, they went into the second bedroom 70 00:05:54,700 --> 00:05:58,020 where they found Madison Mogan laying next to Kaylee Gonsalves. 71 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,560 Kaylee's face was almost unrecognizable because of all the stab wounds. 72 00:06:03,950 --> 00:06:08,550 There is this disturbing new video that captures the moment in the early morning 73 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:14,590 hours. Around 3 .51 a .m., someone is seen walking down the street. A white 74 00:06:14,590 --> 00:06:19,130 sedan loops past the home repeatedly. And finally, you have these haunting 75 00:06:19,130 --> 00:06:21,530 sounds that break the silence. 76 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,760 As word of this tragedy is spreading everywhere and everybody's talking about 77 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,140 it, naturally, there are questions that begin swirling. 78 00:06:40,580 --> 00:06:43,600 We know you have questions, and so do we. 79 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,640 The Moscow Police Department, they're not answering a lot of questions from 80 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:52,780 press. They don't have a press conference about this case until 81 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:55,100 You know, that's three days after the murders. 82 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:00,060 So a lot of people are asking questions and wondering, are we safe? What's going 83 00:07:00,060 --> 00:07:01,060 on? 84 00:07:01,420 --> 00:07:08,040 We have learned that Ethan and Zanna were at a party on campus and Madison 85 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Kaylee were at a downtown bar. 86 00:07:10,540 --> 00:07:13,980 They arrived home sometime after 1 .45. 87 00:07:14,980 --> 00:07:19,620 We know that these homicides occurred in the early morning hours of Sunday, 88 00:07:19,700 --> 00:07:20,820 November 13th. 89 00:07:21,060 --> 00:07:25,600 The four were stabbed with a knife, but no weapon has been located at this time. 90 00:07:26,340 --> 00:07:29,160 They weren't alerting the public to what they'd learned yet because they didn't 91 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,380 want to compromise the investigation. 92 00:07:31,260 --> 00:07:35,840 Based on details of the scene, we believe this was an isolated, targeted 93 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,960 on our victims. 94 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,320 We do not have a suspect at this time, and that individual is still out there. 95 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,180 We cannot say that there is no threat to the community. 96 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,560 Please stay vigilant and be aware of your surroundings at all times. 97 00:07:50,340 --> 00:07:53,380 Try to imagine where this took place in a tiny town in Idaho. 98 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,040 This is something that is so horrific, not only is the community immediately 99 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:03,440 tensed up, up in arms, wants answers, wants a result, but this is such a 100 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,760 specifically horrific incident that now you have the eyes of the nation also 101 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,340 looking into this small town. What are they going to do? How are you going to 102 00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:14,520 solve this? And how are you going to protect the community that is so scared 103 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,179 the moment? 104 00:08:15,180 --> 00:08:19,500 The police are doing everything they can to find out who this is, why this 105 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:23,180 happened, and most importantly, is this person going to strike again? 106 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,320 For a lot of people following this case, social media became the fastest, most 107 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,640 direct way to get information. 108 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:36,700 According to victim's family, University of Idaho killer was sloppy, left 109 00:08:36,700 --> 00:08:38,480 mess of evidence. 110 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:43,659 Guys, have you heard of this quadruple murder out of University of Idaho? These 111 00:08:43,659 --> 00:08:48,220 four young people were stabbed to death in the middle of the night while they 112 00:08:48,220 --> 00:08:49,220 were sleeping. 113 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,860 It's Moscow, Idaho. It's such a safe area. 114 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,980 Not a lot of people care about security. A lot of the times I, especially before 115 00:08:55,980 --> 00:08:57,860 this incident, I would leave my door unlocked. 116 00:08:58,580 --> 00:09:02,400 I think our community was really shocked. I mean, this area is known for 117 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,340 extremely safe because something like this is honestly unheard of. 118 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,960 People were scared because they didn't know if the person they ran into on the 119 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,740 street was the killer. 120 00:09:14,220 --> 00:09:19,460 The university basically said to students, if you need to go home, you 121 00:09:19,460 --> 00:09:21,480 finish the semester online. 122 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:26,140 It's very unfortunate, of course, what happened. I mean, we're all a bit 123 00:09:26,140 --> 00:09:27,840 shocked. We all felt a little bit uneasy. 124 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,900 Before, people were very rowdy, sort of outgoing. 125 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,520 Then they just started to keep to themselves a little bit more. 126 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,620 The autopsies were done quickly in this case because of the sense of urgency. 127 00:09:38,140 --> 00:09:41,460 The police knew that the more information they had and the quicker 128 00:09:41,460 --> 00:09:45,140 information, the better they could implement it. All the wounds on the body 129 00:09:45,140 --> 00:09:48,040 confirmed what the evidence already showed, that these murders were done 130 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,280 quickly, within 16 minutes of each other. That means the intruder acted 131 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,180 ruthless efficiency and did so with a fixed blade knife, which is really more 132 00:09:57,180 --> 00:10:00,860 a hunting knife. And that told police that this was a target attack, not a 133 00:10:00,860 --> 00:10:01,860 random act of violence. 134 00:10:02,830 --> 00:10:06,510 The Moscow Police Department, they've got a whodunit on their hands and they 135 00:10:06,510 --> 00:10:10,610 know it. In any homicide investigation, you have to move really quickly. 136 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:16,290 And so the chief of police brings in the Idaho State Police for assistance. He 137 00:10:16,290 --> 00:10:22,530 brings in the FBI and they set up a tip line and hundreds, if not thousands and 138 00:10:22,530 --> 00:10:24,630 thousands of tips start to pour in. 139 00:10:25,650 --> 00:10:30,590 You have these names that are etched into the small town community. 140 00:10:31,890 --> 00:10:34,990 Kaylee, Madison, Zanna, and Ethan. 141 00:10:35,930 --> 00:10:40,810 There was this broken community that was pausing to remember. 142 00:10:41,130 --> 00:10:44,230 They were coming together to heal together. 143 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:55,970 Anyone who knew Kaylee would tell you the same thing. 144 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:58,530 To know her was to love her. 145 00:10:58,930 --> 00:11:00,070 And I promised. 146 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,320 I promised to live just like you did. 147 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,800 Kaylee Gonsalves was 21. 148 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,220 She was set to graduate. 149 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,960 She was getting ready to move to Texas for a job after graduation. 150 00:11:14,780 --> 00:11:16,660 I'm at Carly D 'Amelio Check! 151 00:11:17,940 --> 00:11:20,440 Kaylee had a really big personality. 152 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,960 People loved her. 153 00:11:22,180 --> 00:11:24,240 And she was actually graduating early. 154 00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:28,620 And sadly, she had pretty much moved out of the King Road house. 155 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,120 She and Maddie were best friends from the time they were younger kids. 156 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:39,460 Maddie was 21 and just absolutely stunning and beautiful. 157 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,440 The outpouring online was enormous. 158 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,720 You had friends, strangers posting tributes to all these kids. People who 159 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,680 never even met them were making videos honoring their lives. 160 00:11:54,180 --> 00:11:58,060 There are four very, very important names in this case. 161 00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:03,660 And that reaction just really showed how deeply this tragedy resonated 162 00:12:03,660 --> 00:12:04,660 everywhere. 163 00:12:05,260 --> 00:12:08,300 Going through the rest of my life without you is going to be a tough one. 164 00:12:08,860 --> 00:12:13,160 But I'm not only living for myself now, but for the rest of the life that Maddie 165 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,160 wasn't able to live. 166 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:19,640 She had such an infectious smile and a charismatic personality. 167 00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:25,780 And if you knew anything about Xana as well, they were very similar in how they 168 00:12:25,780 --> 00:12:26,780 acted together. 169 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,160 I love you so much, E, and Xan. 170 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:32,620 Ethan Chapin and Xana Kernodle were in a relationship. 171 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,260 He was in a fraternity, and in fact, they both enjoyed Greek life on campus. 172 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,100 Ethan was the oldest of his siblings. He was a triplet. He was somebody who was 173 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:44,240 always cracking jokes to his friends. 174 00:12:44,860 --> 00:12:47,640 Xana was described as more of a free spirit. 175 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:50,860 Xana was such an amazing, ambitious young girl. 176 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:52,720 She was someone. 177 00:12:58,060 --> 00:13:00,900 She was someone my family thought of their own. 178 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,580 She was my other half. 179 00:13:03,060 --> 00:13:06,180 My heart aches knowing I can't see her again in this lifetime. 180 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,760 We'll find justice for you, Ethan, Maddie, and Kaylee. We love you all so 181 00:13:21,870 --> 00:13:24,850 They just tried to trace back their movements throughout the day. 182 00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:30,070 On November 12th, you had the photograph on the porch of all of them together. 183 00:13:30,230 --> 00:13:35,410 It was game day. It was the big homecoming game. And the University of 184 00:13:35,570 --> 00:13:37,270 the Vandals, were playing UC Davis. 185 00:13:37,790 --> 00:13:42,550 Ethan and Zanna were at the Sigma Chi house for the party. They knew that 186 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:45,370 and Maddie had been at the Corner Club before they came home. 187 00:13:46,030 --> 00:13:47,890 Hello. Hi. Welcome back. 188 00:13:48,490 --> 00:13:51,990 Everybody had been drinking. All of the roommates were home in the house on King 189 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:53,990 Road by 2 a .m. 190 00:13:54,530 --> 00:13:59,090 Everybody's a suspect until they're not. But they don't have somebody who 191 00:13:59,090 --> 00:14:04,890 they're looking at who's, you know, suspect number one. So they're trying to 192 00:14:04,890 --> 00:14:05,890 rule people out. 193 00:14:06,570 --> 00:14:09,610 Is it someone that maybe someone in the house had dated in the past? 194 00:14:09,830 --> 00:14:13,030 Is it someone that they'd gotten into a fight with at a party, perhaps? 195 00:14:13,290 --> 00:14:17,030 Is it someone that there had been some sort of brewing personal beef growing 196 00:14:17,030 --> 00:14:19,610 between them? Or is it something completely random? 197 00:14:20,630 --> 00:14:23,550 Detectives are looking at this from all different angles, and they're obviously 198 00:14:23,550 --> 00:14:26,730 looking and speaking to the people that knew these four friends best. 199 00:14:27,270 --> 00:14:33,510 But it was the account of one surviving roommate that was different. It was that 200 00:14:33,510 --> 00:14:38,190 account that provided... Just incredibly chilling details. 201 00:14:39,010 --> 00:14:42,310 All I heard was, I heard her go upstairs. I'm like, okay, I'm going to 202 00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:43,470 sleep now because she's going upstairs. 203 00:14:43,930 --> 00:14:45,010 And you heard who go upstairs? 204 00:14:45,230 --> 00:14:46,230 Kaylee and the dog Murphy. 205 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:50,110 And upstairs to the very top? 206 00:14:50,390 --> 00:14:51,650 Yeah, that's where her room is. 207 00:14:52,610 --> 00:14:53,610 Okay. 208 00:14:53,910 --> 00:14:58,170 And then ultimately her walking up, I heard her scream and she ran upstairs 209 00:14:58,170 --> 00:14:59,170 she saw someone. 210 00:14:59,750 --> 00:15:01,350 That's what I'm pretty sure she's got. 211 00:15:01,890 --> 00:15:04,530 Someone's here and she screamed and just ran downstairs. 212 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,200 And I called her name, but I jumped up and locked my door because I was so 213 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,200 scared. 214 00:15:09,380 --> 00:15:13,320 And I heard from in the bathroom, and I heard her crying, and I heard some guys 215 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,960 say that you're going to be okay, I'm going to help you. 216 00:15:15,380 --> 00:15:17,580 And I kept calling her name, but she wasn't answering. 217 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,460 And then I opened the door for a second, and I saw this guy, and he was not 218 00:15:22,460 --> 00:15:25,480 insanely tall, but he was wearing all black and, like, this mask, which was 219 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,380 covering his forehead and his mouth. 220 00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:29,180 And then I locked the door, and I called. 221 00:15:43,870 --> 00:15:50,410 The cops kept it really close to the vest that DM had seen a man walking 222 00:15:50,410 --> 00:15:56,690 the house around 4 a .m. And then she opened her door and saw what she thought 223 00:15:56,690 --> 00:16:02,960 was a firefighter a man in all black with bushy eyebrows and a mask 224 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,940 keep in mind this was four in the morning and she was asleep she didn't 225 00:16:07,940 --> 00:16:11,260 when she started hearing these noises if she was dreaming or if she was awake 226 00:16:11,260 --> 00:16:16,400 now looking back think about the terror that she must feel knowing that she was 227 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,860 that close to the intruder that killed her three roommates and a friend i can't 228 00:16:20,860 --> 00:16:23,260 imagine having to live with that for the rest of your life 229 00:16:39,290 --> 00:16:44,630 The whole house is a crime scene, but Zanna's room and Maddie's room are 230 00:16:44,630 --> 00:16:50,530 two primary places where these homicides were committed. As soon as they get 231 00:16:50,530 --> 00:16:51,690 into Maddie's room... 232 00:16:52,030 --> 00:16:54,230 They see a K -Bar knife sheath. 233 00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:59,550 Corporal Payne, when he did his first initial walkthrough of the residence, 234 00:16:59,550 --> 00:17:04,710 the sheath and recognized it immediately as something that we needed to take a 235 00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:06,050 look at and start processing. 236 00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:10,550 They don't have possession of the knife. I've actually got the same type of 237 00:17:10,550 --> 00:17:12,190 knife, and I'll show you the knife itself. 238 00:17:12,710 --> 00:17:15,569 It's K -Bar. 239 00:17:19,020 --> 00:17:23,599 It is a combat knife that's been used by our troops since World War II, famously 240 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:25,420 by the United States Marine Corps. 241 00:17:25,859 --> 00:17:31,760 You can imagine someone over these victims, and then dramatically they drop 242 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,420 sheath down. They're still holding the knife, and then they go into attack. 243 00:17:34,820 --> 00:17:38,320 And it's such a frenzied event. They bolt out of the room. 244 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,940 They leave the sheath behind. 245 00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:44,840 It was discovered in the bed next to Maddie, and no one could remember Maddie 246 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,000 Kaylee or anyone else in the house having this type of hunting knife. 247 00:17:48,650 --> 00:17:52,550 There is this brand new theory that is emerging from law enforcement, and it's 248 00:17:52,550 --> 00:17:57,430 that the killer may have actually followed Zanna downstairs when she 249 00:17:57,430 --> 00:18:02,290 the attack on Madison, and that, that may have been the moment when the knife 250 00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:03,290 sheath was left behind. 251 00:18:03,930 --> 00:18:08,210 When the Idaho State Police came in, they processed the scene, that sheath. 252 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,080 was immediately turned over, literally driven straight down to the Idaho State 253 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,520 Police Forensics Lab in Meridian and handed directly to the specialists down 254 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,920 there to begin work on it immediately. 255 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,180 But there's a complication with the evidence that's found at this particular 256 00:18:24,180 --> 00:18:26,260 house. Who lives here? 257 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,200 We're not actually... You don't know who lives here? No, I don't. We're just 258 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,159 here for a noise complaint. 259 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:32,979 Oh, okay. 260 00:18:32,980 --> 00:18:36,860 The police in Moscow, they're familiar with 1122 King Road. 261 00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:38,100 It's a party house. 262 00:18:38,510 --> 00:18:43,250 And there had been noise complaints, and so police had been to the house. 263 00:18:43,810 --> 00:18:48,830 You have a wide, diverse pool of people that can be coming and going through 264 00:18:48,830 --> 00:18:52,650 there. And, of course, they're depositing everything that they bring 265 00:18:52,650 --> 00:18:54,110 outside with them. 266 00:18:54,370 --> 00:18:59,210 You know, you begin to think about hair, fiber, footprints, anything like that 267 00:18:59,210 --> 00:19:04,510 that can be deposited in that environment and may have been deposited 268 00:19:04,510 --> 00:19:07,270 weeks prior to this actual slaughter. 269 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:09,280 Hi, this is the Moscow Police Department. 270 00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:10,500 Who am I speaking with? 271 00:19:10,820 --> 00:19:12,260 Maddie, we received a noise complaint. 272 00:19:12,460 --> 00:19:14,460 You have a house full of random people. 273 00:19:15,020 --> 00:19:17,720 You need to let them know that the noise needs to come down, okay? 274 00:19:18,020 --> 00:19:19,780 Okay, very clear. Thank you. 275 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,100 There was a lot of speculation online that possibly these homicides were tied 276 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:25,999 these noise complaints. 277 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,980 Did the person who called in the noise complaint do it to look at how fast the 278 00:19:30,980 --> 00:19:32,120 police would respond? 279 00:19:32,340 --> 00:19:36,160 But there were really never any credible leads or theories. 280 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:37,859 Hello, miss. 281 00:19:37,860 --> 00:19:39,240 What's your name? Zanna. 282 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:40,499 Zanna, do you live here? 283 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:44,080 Yeah. This is the second noise complaint we've had here tonight within two 284 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,760 hours. I sincerely apologize, Bob. Okay. 285 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:49,480 I'm just going to bed. 286 00:19:50,220 --> 00:19:55,100 As the days and weeks passed, it really felt like, at least publicly, that they 287 00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:59,980 didn't really have much, that the police were just kind of waiting for something 288 00:19:59,980 --> 00:20:00,980 to happen. 289 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,840 And then finally, a new breakthrough. 290 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:09,560 We have literally an army of analysts who have been sorting through videos 291 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,560 have been submitted. 292 00:20:10,620 --> 00:20:14,320 There's been a lot of questions about the white car that we've been interested 293 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,340 in. We're looking for that car because we believe that that car was in the area 294 00:20:19,340 --> 00:20:22,780 during the time of the murders, and we also believe that the occupant or 295 00:20:22,780 --> 00:20:24,340 occupants may have seen something. 296 00:20:25,460 --> 00:20:30,440 Forensics teams were at the house all day today, and they were seen taking 297 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,440 pictures. 298 00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:38,970 of what look like tire marks outside of the house so far we have a a list of 299 00:20:38,970 --> 00:20:44,890 approximately 22 000 registered white hyundai elantris that fit into our 300 00:20:44,890 --> 00:20:50,170 criteria that we're sorting through that's an awful lot of information there 301 00:20:50,170 --> 00:20:55,350 isn't a crystal clear image of the car on all of the different pieces of 302 00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:59,800 surveillance video but they're able to determine that this is a white Hyundai 303 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:05,660 Elantra. And so that generated a whole new round of tips. People calling in 304 00:21:05,660 --> 00:21:10,040 information from around the country about white Hyundai Elantras. 305 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,280 So attention now turns back to the nightsheet and they test the button snap 306 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,940 DNA. They're hoping that's going to provide them the answers that they're 307 00:21:17,940 --> 00:21:18,819 looking for. 308 00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:21,060 They got a full DNA profile from the snap. 309 00:21:21,420 --> 00:21:24,900 And because of that, they were able to run it through the system to see if it 310 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:28,840 matched with anyone had been convicted of any sort of crime, any felony, or had 311 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,660 been through any other national database. 312 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,880 And it came up empty. 313 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,480 Detectives are following all these clues across state lines, and that is when 314 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,480 they narrow down. 315 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,880 They go to Othram Labs and they say, hey, can you build out a family tree? 316 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,480 you do your genetic genealogy work to figure out who this person could be? 317 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,940 Othram Labs could only take it so far, so they then turned it over to the FBI. 318 00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:57,980 The turning point came on December 19th when the FBI came back to the Moscow 319 00:21:57,980 --> 00:22:03,920 Police Department and they said, hey, that DNA you gave us from the knife 320 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,960 sheath, we found a name. You need to look at this guy. His name is Brian 321 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:09,960 Koberger. 322 00:22:10,220 --> 00:22:15,140 They get with the trash company and pull Brian Koberger's parents' trash. 323 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:16,880 They fly the trash. 324 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:23,720 back to Idaho, and they pull out a Q -tip. They test that DNA against 325 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:29,020 the DNA from the knife sheath, and they find out that it's nearly 100 % certain 326 00:22:29,020 --> 00:22:35,800 that the person whose DNA is on the knife sheath is the son of Michael 327 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:36,880 Brian's father. 328 00:22:37,980 --> 00:22:42,120 To get that name was just fantastic. 329 00:22:42,910 --> 00:22:46,010 We were digging our teeth into everything, but we really dug into that 330 00:22:46,010 --> 00:22:49,290 immediately, and that's when all of the puzzle pieces started coming together. 331 00:22:50,290 --> 00:22:54,550 Now, the public didn't know this was going on, but at that time, this whole 332 00:22:54,550 --> 00:22:59,570 story was entering a new phase. There was going to be this tense countdown to 333 00:22:59,570 --> 00:23:05,270 arrest. The problem is, there was no apparent connection between Brian 334 00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:09,510 and these students, so the natural question is, could he really be their 335 00:23:11,150 --> 00:23:15,990 I'm totally freaking out right now. It's not always the creepy guy with glasses 336 00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:20,150 and oily hair and creeping around the corner. It's sometimes just that average 337 00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:22,310 Joe, much like Brian Koberger. 338 00:23:22,930 --> 00:23:24,670 Brian Koberger. 339 00:23:32,690 --> 00:23:37,010 Brian Koberger. Brian Koberger. Brian Christopher Koberger. 340 00:23:37,630 --> 00:23:43,770 Brian Koberger was a PhD student in criminology. He had moved to Pullman, 341 00:23:43,810 --> 00:23:46,710 Washington in late June of 2022. 342 00:23:47,290 --> 00:23:52,050 Pullman, Washington is less than 10 miles away from Moscow, Idaho. 343 00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:57,670 It's about a 15 -minute drive away, and he was pursuing his dream. 344 00:23:57,950 --> 00:24:04,450 He wanted to study the criminal mind. This was somebody who overcame a lot in 345 00:24:04,450 --> 00:24:06,490 his past. When he was a teenager, 346 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,300 He was addicted to heroin. 347 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,760 He was obese at one point. 348 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,200 He was a tortured kind of soul. He was bullied in school. 349 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:21,060 And his father actually did so much to try to help him. He was able to get 350 00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:25,720 clean. He then started going to community college and studying 351 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:26,720 criminal justice. 352 00:24:26,740 --> 00:24:30,260 He later on got a master's degree in criminology. 353 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,440 He was somebody who was also a loner. He didn't have a lot of friends. 354 00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:39,230 And he had a hard time connecting and relating to women. 355 00:24:39,710 --> 00:24:43,350 I can't believe that WSU did not fire him. 356 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,000 before December with all of the complaints about this guy. 357 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,300 Koeberger would sometimes go into an office where several female grad 358 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:55,000 worked and physically block the door. 359 00:24:55,260 --> 00:25:00,440 A PhD student told police that he enjoyed conflict and was disparaging 360 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:06,540 women and that he liked to talk about sexual burglary, which was his field of 361 00:25:06,540 --> 00:25:11,570 study. Referring to the murders, Koberger had stated whoever had 362 00:25:11,570 --> 00:25:13,810 homicides must have been pretty good. 363 00:25:14,170 --> 00:25:18,650 You know, for many people following this case, the shot wasn't just who he was. 364 00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:24,110 It was his age. He was close in age to the victims. He was a student and his 365 00:25:24,110 --> 00:25:26,410 life looked eerily familiar. 366 00:25:27,210 --> 00:25:30,930 At that time, I would have never said, oh, yeah, that guy would would do 367 00:25:30,930 --> 00:25:31,929 something like this. 368 00:25:31,930 --> 00:25:34,170 He may have been a little odd or a little off. 369 00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:36,070 But like other than that. 370 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,800 You'd never expect someone to be allegedly part of a quadruple homicide 371 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:45,600 These chameleons, as I like to call them, you don't know who's capable of 372 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,180 until it happens. 373 00:25:47,950 --> 00:25:51,570 When the police were first looking at Brian Koberger and really investigating 374 00:25:51,570 --> 00:25:56,430 the connection between him and the murders and owning a Hyundai Elantra, 375 00:25:56,430 --> 00:26:00,710 have to rule out all non -malicious reasons first. Is this someone who 376 00:26:00,710 --> 00:26:01,870 could have been involved in the crime? 377 00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:05,650 Or is it just a coincidence that he happens to own this car and was at a 378 00:26:05,650 --> 00:26:06,650 nearby that night? 379 00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:11,300 Moscow police get a search warrant and they get Brian Koberger's cell phone 380 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:15,720 records. And they find that for most of the evening, that Saturday night before 381 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,120 the homicides, that he's hanging out at his apartment in Pullman. 382 00:26:20,340 --> 00:26:24,540 And then before 3 a .m., he's on the move. 383 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,960 At 2 .54, his phone goes dark. 384 00:26:28,180 --> 00:26:30,820 It's not until 4 .48 a .m. 385 00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:35,750 That that phone reconnects to a network, and it's south of Moscow. 386 00:26:36,670 --> 00:26:41,430 Investigators say that that two -hour time period where Brian Koberger's phone 387 00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:45,970 is not reporting to the cell network and his phone is basically dark, they say 388 00:26:45,970 --> 00:26:50,870 it's critical because it coincides with the time that the murders occurred. 389 00:26:51,450 --> 00:26:54,450 The police knew that he was out that night, and they knew he was in the 390 00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:57,900 vicinity. So they started looking at what towers he had pinged leading up to 391 00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:01,500 this night. And that's when they discovered that at least 12 times he had 392 00:27:01,500 --> 00:27:02,560 in the vicinity of that house. 393 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:09,420 All of these weeks of quiet investigation have now led to one name. 394 00:27:09,420 --> 00:27:13,080 December 2022, they are finally ready to move in. 395 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,820 Writing news this morning, News Nation can confirm. 396 00:27:17,530 --> 00:27:21,970 An arrest has reportedly been made in the quadruple stabbing death of four 397 00:27:21,970 --> 00:27:24,690 college students in Moscow, Idaho. 398 00:27:24,890 --> 00:27:30,370 Last night, in conjunction with the Pennsylvania State Police, Federal 399 00:27:30,370 --> 00:27:36,750 Investigation, detectives arrested 28 -year -old Brian Christopher Koberger 400 00:27:36,750 --> 00:27:38,770 in Albrightville, Pennsylvania. 401 00:27:40,010 --> 00:27:43,710 50 officers surrounded Brian Koberger's parents' house. When they got there, 402 00:27:43,770 --> 00:27:48,110 they found him already going through track, sorting it out, trying to remove 403 00:27:48,110 --> 00:27:49,950 whatever he contributed there. 404 00:27:50,410 --> 00:27:55,110 After they arrested him without incident, they took him to a local 405 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:58,310 learned that after Brian Koberger's arrest, he was interviewed by law 406 00:27:58,310 --> 00:28:01,870 enforcement, and they spent a lot of time going through his background, and 407 00:28:01,870 --> 00:28:05,610 appeared forthright. But as soon as they brought up this incident, he shut the 408 00:28:05,610 --> 00:28:06,610 interview down. 409 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:13,000 At several different moments in the conversation, the suspect would stop and 410 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,540 something about, well, let's really talk about why we're here. 411 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,880 It was the third time that he brought that up. He was more stern and wanted to 412 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,000 know why they were there, and of course they explained, and that's when he 413 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,060 invoked his right to counsel and ended the interview. 414 00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:30,500 So Brian Kohlberger is then extradited back to Idaho to face charges. 415 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,300 A criminal complaint was filed yesterday here in Latah County. 416 00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:38,890 Charging the defendant, Mr. Kohlberger, with four counts of first -degree murder 417 00:28:38,890 --> 00:28:41,630 in addition to felony burglary. 418 00:28:42,910 --> 00:28:47,130 I'm totally freaking out right now. Man arrested in Monroe County, PA in 419 00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:48,550 connection to the Idaho murders. 420 00:28:48,850 --> 00:28:52,870 An arrest has been made in the murders of those four University of Idaho 421 00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:56,690 students. His mugshot and name has officially been released. This is Brian 422 00:28:56,690 --> 00:29:00,270 Kohlberger. I went to college with Brian Kohlberger. 423 00:29:00,930 --> 00:29:02,510 I've been looking at his picture all day. 424 00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:07,000 I've been saying the name all day in my head, and I was like, I know this guy. I 425 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,200 couldn't put a point on it. 426 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:14,720 And he lost so much weight. When I knew him, he was a pudgy guy. He was really 427 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,340 friendly. He was a pretty smart guy, and he was interested in criminal justice, 428 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,300 and I remember having classes with him. For this guy to do that is beyond me. 429 00:29:22,780 --> 00:29:27,500 And now we have all this fresh new insight that's revealing the moments 430 00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:28,500 lead up to this arrest. 431 00:29:29,070 --> 00:29:32,530 Once they realized that Koberger had gone to Pennsylvania, they started 432 00:29:32,530 --> 00:29:36,250 following him so they could really get a sense of who he was and what was the 433 00:29:36,250 --> 00:29:37,270 purpose of his actions. 434 00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:41,070 So for the next four days, they trailed him. And during that time period, they 435 00:29:41,070 --> 00:29:43,510 watched him meticulously clean his Hyundai Elantra. 436 00:29:44,090 --> 00:29:48,110 He was seen wearing gloves, doing things like going out to the grocery store 437 00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:53,830 with gloves on. He was seen walking around the neighborhood at very, very 438 00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:55,650 morning hours, the pitch black. 439 00:29:55,930 --> 00:29:57,710 Some different behaviors for sure. 440 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,060 During a formal search of Koberger's vehicle and his parents' home, 441 00:30:03,220 --> 00:30:08,940 investigators collect several knives, a handgun with empty magazines, more 442 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,740 gloves, black face coverings, laptops. 443 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,440 It's just this laundry list of potentially significant items. 444 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,240 The hope is that they're going to be able to find evidence that connects 445 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,580 Koberger to the murders. 446 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:24,840 But one of the things that they don't find is the murder weapon itself, the 447 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,619 hunting knife. 448 00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:26,880 They also don't find any blood. 449 00:30:27,450 --> 00:30:32,550 They don't find any forensic evidence at this point that links Brian Koberger to 450 00:30:32,550 --> 00:30:33,550 the murders. 451 00:30:33,790 --> 00:30:37,930 It wasn't until the probable cause affidavit came out that we found out 452 00:30:37,930 --> 00:30:42,070 profile taken from the snap of the sheath matched Brian Koberger. 453 00:30:42,290 --> 00:30:45,790 We learned about the investigation and the cell site information they gathered, 454 00:30:45,890 --> 00:30:47,570 as well as video surveillance. 455 00:30:47,870 --> 00:30:51,790 And it showed that not only was the white Elantra in the vicinity of the 456 00:30:51,790 --> 00:30:55,890 the night of the murders, but it was in the vicinity of the house prior to the 457 00:30:55,890 --> 00:30:56,890 night of the murders as well. 458 00:30:57,180 --> 00:31:01,460 And that white Elantra, or something very similar, returned to the area after 459 00:31:01,460 --> 00:31:02,460 the murders. 460 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,980 Previously confidential information about Brian Koberger's cell phone tells 461 00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:11,060 so much more, so much more than just his movements on the night of the murders. 462 00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:14,420 It's really long, so I'm going to give you the important details. 463 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,700 Brian's cell phone pinged around the house 12 times prior to the murders, as 464 00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:22,400 well as five hours after the murders around 9 .30 a .m. 465 00:31:22,650 --> 00:31:25,910 The case is so incredibly sad. Like, look how young they are. Brian has not 466 00:31:25,910 --> 00:31:29,570 spoken about motive or anything. He's actually maintaining his innocence. 467 00:31:30,090 --> 00:31:33,810 They had found on his devices that he was routinely wiping them and utilizing 468 00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:39,950 systems to do that. And so the amount of information on him was not a lot. I do 469 00:31:39,950 --> 00:31:45,770 know that they did locate a few news stories on the case, but all in all, 470 00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:50,710 of his devices were relatively clean, for lack of a better term. 471 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:58,240 He had huge gaps in usage from October 12th through November 16th on his 472 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,080 computer. The computer would show that browser was in use, but then there's no 473 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,800 history, that the system was in use, but then there's no activity. 474 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,620 So we know that he was cleaning up his track. 475 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,260 But where he really made mistakes, he forgot to clear his downloads on his 476 00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:17,920 phone, which was very helpful to us. 477 00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:24,090 I saw American Psycho and how much the guy loved himself and would take selfies 478 00:32:24,090 --> 00:32:27,450 in the mirror and how clean he would want to be. 479 00:32:27,810 --> 00:32:30,010 He seemed to do those same types of things. 480 00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:36,830 Lots of, like, flexing muscles, selfies, half -closed. There's numerous 481 00:32:36,830 --> 00:32:39,290 instances of that on his phone. 482 00:32:39,630 --> 00:32:44,450 There's tons of history of him looking into, like, the Idaho murders on Reddit. 483 00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:47,630 This wasn't just someone who was like, hey, I'm interested in the case. 484 00:32:48,430 --> 00:32:53,870 He was going and downloading the Moscow press releases to his wife, saving 485 00:32:53,870 --> 00:32:55,510 everything that they populated. 486 00:32:56,050 --> 00:32:59,630 There was a lot of mixed emotions with that one, you know, because to me, he 487 00:32:59,630 --> 00:33:00,630 a nice guy. 488 00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:05,610 I didn't feel, like, scared. I don't know. I just was in disbelief. 489 00:33:05,910 --> 00:33:10,490 Couldn't really sleep. You just kind of replay your whole relationship and, 490 00:33:10,550 --> 00:33:14,750 like, combing through all our conversations and see if I can, like, 491 00:33:14,750 --> 00:33:18,090 if I could have seen anything. There was nothing really that... 492 00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:20,290 To pick at it, like, there's nothing alarming. 493 00:33:21,090 --> 00:33:23,410 Police department search warrant! Come to the door! 494 00:33:24,030 --> 00:33:27,510 In a search of Brian Koberger's Pullman, Washington apartment, investigators 495 00:33:27,510 --> 00:33:29,030 find all this new evidence. 496 00:33:29,810 --> 00:33:35,370 Clippings from his bed that contained stains, a vacuum dust container, and all 497 00:33:35,370 --> 00:33:37,370 of these receipts from recent purchases. 498 00:33:38,170 --> 00:33:42,050 On his computer, I expected, we're going to go in there, we're going to find the 499 00:33:42,050 --> 00:33:44,210 motive. We're going to be able to tell these families why. 500 00:33:44,570 --> 00:33:46,650 We're going to understand how this crime occurred. 501 00:33:47,390 --> 00:33:51,730 And there was so much information that just wasn't there that was shocking. It 502 00:33:51,730 --> 00:33:55,230 was almost a desperate chase to find data that was erased. 503 00:33:56,250 --> 00:34:02,390 There was also a really interesting sort of pattern of things where he read 504 00:34:02,390 --> 00:34:07,190 something on the news that said police are looking for Hyundai Elantra, white 505 00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:12,489 color. Within minutes, he searches for a car detailing place and then starts to 506 00:34:12,489 --> 00:34:13,489 shop for used cars. 507 00:34:14,150 --> 00:34:18,889 It's almost too good to be true. Unless this guy was miraculously set up, which 508 00:34:18,889 --> 00:34:22,870 is like a one in a billion chance, no one cares enough about Brian Koberger to 509 00:34:22,870 --> 00:34:25,770 set him up. None of this evidence is pointing to anybody else. 510 00:34:26,590 --> 00:34:28,170 And then you have the body cam videos. 511 00:34:28,730 --> 00:34:33,230 Footage of multiple traffic stops involving Brian Koberger that all come 512 00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:34,230 after his arrest. 513 00:34:34,570 --> 00:34:36,130 Hello. How you doing? 514 00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:37,409 How y 'all doing today? 515 00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:39,230 Good, good. 516 00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:42,570 Take a look at your driver's license real quick like that. Where are you 517 00:34:46,170 --> 00:34:48,770 Well, we're coming from WSU. 518 00:34:49,650 --> 00:34:55,050 Brian Koberger's father, Michael, flew out to Pullman, Washington in December 519 00:34:55,050 --> 00:35:01,130 help him drive back to Pennsylvania for the Christmas break. And they're pulled 520 00:35:01,130 --> 00:35:03,970 over in Indiana on the way home. 521 00:35:04,730 --> 00:35:08,590 You right up on the back end of that van, hold you over for tailgating. 522 00:35:09,930 --> 00:35:10,930 Is this your car? 523 00:35:11,490 --> 00:35:12,790 Okay, cool. 524 00:35:13,630 --> 00:35:18,370 Now the officer lets them go with a warning, but it's just minutes later, 525 00:35:18,370 --> 00:35:19,810 co -burter men are stopped again. 526 00:35:23,630 --> 00:35:24,730 You guys stopped by a trooper? 527 00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:26,630 We don't have any SUVs. 528 00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:30,490 There was a county guy with a black SUV. 529 00:35:30,970 --> 00:35:31,970 Okay, all right. 530 00:35:32,810 --> 00:35:38,630 A lot of people were saying early on that he was being surveilled from the 531 00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:44,990 he left WSU, and that's just not true. We did not have him pinpointed as our 532 00:35:44,990 --> 00:35:46,070 primary suspect. 533 00:35:46,730 --> 00:35:47,730 Now, here's the thing. 534 00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:51,730 While investigators are pointing the finger at Brian Koberger, the Internet 535 00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:52,970 abuzz with debate. 536 00:35:53,170 --> 00:35:56,030 Was he, in fact, the killer? Was he, in fact, guilty? 537 00:35:56,290 --> 00:35:57,310 Or did they have the wrong guy? 538 00:35:58,090 --> 00:36:00,630 If you think Koberger's not guilty... 539 00:36:00,890 --> 00:36:07,650 You have to believe the person who was the real unaliver somehow went to 540 00:36:07,650 --> 00:36:13,050 Kohlberger's house that night, shook hands with Kohlberger, and then touched 541 00:36:13,050 --> 00:36:16,830 weapon and the sheath, take it to the crime scene. 542 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:18,390 Hey, there's always a chance. 543 00:36:20,170 --> 00:36:24,790 In May of 2023, Brian Kohlberger goes before a judge to hear his charges. 544 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,860 For the families of Kaylee and Madison and Zanna and Ethan, this search for 545 00:36:29,860 --> 00:36:34,520 justice was really just the beginning because prosecutors announced they were 546 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:35,560 seeking the death penalty. 547 00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:41,780 For counts two, three, four, and five, murder in a first degree, 548 00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:46,640 maximum penalties, life in prison, or the death penalty. 549 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,360 Is Mr. Coburn prepared to plead to be charged? 550 00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:52,300 No, sir. 551 00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:57,820 I'm going to answer not guilty, please, on each charge. 552 00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:00,900 When you go to trial, there can be many possibilities. 553 00:37:01,220 --> 00:37:03,340 You can be fully acquitted. You can be found guilty. 554 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,420 And in Idaho, if you're found guilty of murder, they would have brought back the 555 00:37:07,420 --> 00:37:11,640 firing squad for you. And so he was facing the very real possibility of not 556 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,460 facing life in prison, but death. 557 00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:31,030 So much credit to Prosecutor Bill Thompson and his office. 558 00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:39,070 They absolutely amazed me. From day one, they were on the ground. They were 559 00:37:39,070 --> 00:37:44,510 in the scene with investigators, learning everything from day one so that 560 00:37:44,510 --> 00:37:46,530 could build the best case possible. 561 00:37:47,310 --> 00:37:53,290 Right after Brian Koberger is arrested, his lawyer, Ann Taylor, she asks for a 562 00:37:53,290 --> 00:37:57,490 gag order in the case. And the prosecution, they agree to it. 563 00:37:57,850 --> 00:38:03,230 So that basically shuts down any information coming out about this case. 564 00:38:03,590 --> 00:38:07,070 Brian Koberger also waived his right to a speedy trial. 565 00:38:08,070 --> 00:38:09,070 Yes. 566 00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:19,170 Brian Koberger's defense, they say, even with this gag order that we think is 567 00:38:19,170 --> 00:38:23,050 working, we just don't think Brian Koberger can get a fair trial in Latah 568 00:38:23,050 --> 00:38:24,050 County. 569 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:30,980 We're here on a motion to change venue from Latah County to Ada County, filed 570 00:38:30,980 --> 00:38:31,980 by the defense. 571 00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:37,860 The standard here is whether there's a reasonable likelihood that pretrial 572 00:38:37,860 --> 00:38:41,980 publicity has affected the impartiality of prospective jurors. 573 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:48,700 They get the case moved to Ada County, and a new judge actually takes over the 574 00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:49,700 case as well. 575 00:38:50,380 --> 00:38:53,620 The problem is that there's a gag order. It's blocking the release of any new 576 00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:57,360 information. Law enforcement is staying silent. So what do people do? They flock 577 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,380 to social media and they're getting their updates on TikTok and Reddit. 578 00:39:01,820 --> 00:39:05,780 This case was absolutely everywhere when it happened. It still is. I think it 579 00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:09,140 got so big because it was so brutal, so morbid and just pure evil. 580 00:39:09,470 --> 00:39:12,930 The gag order includes anyone in relation to this case, so police, 581 00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:17,430 investigators, attorneys from either side, witnesses from either side. 582 00:39:17,710 --> 00:39:21,230 While the state is strengthening their case against Brian Koberger, his defense 583 00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:26,010 is kind of scrambling. They're fighting back against IgG, investigative genetic 584 00:39:26,010 --> 00:39:28,770 genealogy, that was used to identify him. 585 00:39:29,130 --> 00:39:35,910 Your Honor, we're here because the state has alleged that a single piece of 586 00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:38,890 evidence ties Mr. Koberger to this case. 587 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:44,780 that there's a knife sheet that has DNA that they allege matches Brian Koberger. 588 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,200 The defense argued that the FBI's access to the IgG violated Koberger's Fourth 589 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,600 Amendment rights. And in doing so, they skirted the law in order to get a viable 590 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,600 DNA profile. 591 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:02,180 There was no warrant for several phases of the search that led to the IgG work, 592 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,000 investigative genetic genealogy. 593 00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:07,860 And we think every single one of those stages, a warrant was required. 594 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,060 Ultimately, the judge determined that the FBI did not violate Koberger's 595 00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:15,800 Amendment rights. And this allowed the prosecution to use this critical DNA 596 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,100 evidence as they move forward. 597 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,560 Brian Koberger claimed that he was innocent. 598 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:26,900 And his attorneys filed a notice of alibi. And they claimed that he was out 599 00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:30,240 driving that night. They said it was something that he often did. 600 00:40:30,460 --> 00:40:34,240 And he was out at a park looking at the stars. 601 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,940 And when they said that, a lot of people laughed. 602 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,420 Because basically he's admitting that he's out and about driving. 603 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:49,080 Brian Koberger finally gave his alibi. He finally said what he was doing on the 604 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,920 night of the quadruple murders and how he was not there and he is not the one 605 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,560 responsible. And take a guess what he was doing. 606 00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,500 Driving in the night by himself looking at the moon and the stars. 607 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,160 No. 608 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,940 You cannot use a phone that is powered off to take photos of the stars. 609 00:41:06,570 --> 00:41:09,930 And you might say, that's so dumb. Yeah, I know. But that's what he said he was 610 00:41:09,930 --> 00:41:14,650 doing. There were zero pictures in this night of S .T .A .R .S. Like, not 611 00:41:14,650 --> 00:41:16,730 before, not after. Like, it wasn't photographing. 612 00:41:17,530 --> 00:41:23,070 This is very frustrating. The trial is continuing to stall month after month 613 00:41:23,070 --> 00:41:27,770 after month, and the families are doing whatever they can to keep this story 614 00:41:27,770 --> 00:41:29,230 alive in the public eye. 615 00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:33,930 What my daughter's gone through, Maddie Mae went through, the least I can do 616 00:41:33,930 --> 00:41:34,930 is... 617 00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:40,660 You know, make myself sit down and communicate and keep people focused on 618 00:41:40,660 --> 00:41:42,440 case. I don't take it lightly. 619 00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:44,240 Her job is to get everyone to forget. 620 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:48,480 Her job is to stretch this out so long that the witnesses don't even remember 621 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,419 what happened. 622 00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:52,380 So I'm not going to take it. I'm going to come forward and I'm going to keep it 623 00:41:52,380 --> 00:41:53,379 fresh. 624 00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:57,360 Part of the prosecution's job leading up to trial is preparing witnesses and 625 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,600 family members for what's to come. 626 00:41:59,070 --> 00:42:03,210 And the impact on both the community and the family members here was so severe 627 00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:06,570 that they need to be prepared that they're going to have to now relive it 628 00:42:06,570 --> 00:42:13,070 detail. We learned that they went for Maddie first, and then Kaylee. 629 00:42:13,490 --> 00:42:14,730 Kaylee woke up. 630 00:42:15,070 --> 00:42:16,830 Kaylee showed signs of fighting. 631 00:42:17,210 --> 00:42:20,910 But this monster struck her multiple times. 632 00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:25,350 And she was struck in the face. Her nose was broken. 633 00:42:26,060 --> 00:42:30,600 The blows that he delivered to her would have killed her. 634 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:36,140 It's not fair for parents to have to wait two to three years to understand 635 00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:37,140 happened to their kid. 636 00:42:37,580 --> 00:42:39,400 Talk about cruel and unusual punishment. 637 00:42:40,620 --> 00:42:41,880 We have a trial date set. 638 00:42:42,220 --> 00:42:45,020 This is the moment, right, where we're going to get answers. We're going to 639 00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:50,160 figure out everything that happened. But right before the gavel falls, there is 640 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,660 a move that stuns everyone. 641 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:58,280 There's going to be no trial in the Brian Coburger case. This is breaking 642 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,480 Just came in an hour ago. I am not going to lie. 643 00:43:01,740 --> 00:43:03,980 I did not expect this. 644 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,460 Have you had enough time to decide whether or not to plead guilty? 645 00:43:15,020 --> 00:43:17,500 Yes. Are you pleading guilty freely and voluntarily? 646 00:43:17,980 --> 00:43:21,980 Yes. Has anyone threatened you or anyone close to you to get you to plead 647 00:43:21,980 --> 00:43:22,980 guilty? No. 648 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,220 Are you pleading guilty because you are guilty? 649 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:32,840 Yes. It was kind of shocking, but also not completely shocking when 650 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,020 you look at what was at stake. 651 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,920 I mean, he was looking at the possibility of being convicted and 652 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,120 death by maybe firing squad. 653 00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:47,620 And so his lawyers had fought tooth and nail throughout this case to try to get 654 00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:48,660 the death penalty removed. 655 00:43:49,610 --> 00:43:55,770 Did you, on November 13, 2022, enter the residence at 1122 King Road 656 00:43:55,770 --> 00:43:59,610 in Moscow, Idaho, with the intent to commit the felony crime of murder? 657 00:43:59,930 --> 00:44:00,930 Yes. 658 00:44:01,090 --> 00:44:06,250 The shock of that guilty plea was a turning point. And online, I mean, the 659 00:44:06,250 --> 00:44:08,030 reaction was instant. 660 00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:14,930 Genuinely, nothing has made my jaw drop quite like this. I literally gasped when 661 00:44:14,930 --> 00:44:16,490 I read this because I didn't believe it. 662 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,960 The whole time where he kind of alluded to the fact that there was someone else 663 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:26,140 involved, no, it was just him. It is abundantly clear immediately that this 664 00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:31,680 for the families of Kaylee, Madison, Zanna, and Ethan is not well received. 665 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:36,440 for the family of Kaylee Gonsalves, they expressed their frustration through 666 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,600 social media posts and media appearances. 667 00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:43,420 We were asked if we had a... 668 00:44:44,140 --> 00:44:48,520 ever been offered a plea deal or gave one. We're not in it. We're in it for 669 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:53,460 death penalty. The choice is he could be fired at or he could take a shot. 670 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,520 Those are the two options that we would agree to. 671 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,420 If it would have got to negotiations, we would have negotiated a lot better. You 672 00:45:02,420 --> 00:45:06,600 know, he didn't force him to say that he did it solo by himself, didn't force 673 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:12,440 him to prove that he was wearing the suit or show us where the knife is to 674 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,440 chief. 675 00:45:13,550 --> 00:45:17,730 There were two families who were vehemently opposed to the plea deal. 676 00:45:17,730 --> 00:45:21,270 Gonsalves' family said that the state of Idaho let them down. 677 00:45:21,550 --> 00:45:23,910 They wanted answers. They wanted a trial. 678 00:45:24,130 --> 00:45:28,530 Santa Cronodle's father, Jeff Cronodle, was vehemently opposed to this plea 679 00:45:28,530 --> 00:45:33,290 agreement. But look, for others, this was a welcome relief to move forward. 680 00:45:33,950 --> 00:45:37,330 We love you, Maddie, and we miss you. 681 00:45:37,930 --> 00:45:41,550 We support the plea agreement 100%. 682 00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:46,450 While we know there are some who do not support it, we ask that they respect our 683 00:45:46,450 --> 00:45:49,870 belief that this is the best outcome possible for the victims, their 684 00:45:49,950 --> 00:45:51,030 and the state of Idaho. 685 00:45:51,930 --> 00:45:52,930 We have closure. 686 00:45:53,550 --> 00:45:55,690 We embark on a path of hope and healing. 687 00:45:57,450 --> 00:46:00,870 One of the ongoing tragedies of this case is that we're just never going to 688 00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:04,690 learn what his true motivations were. Why did he pick this house? Why did he 689 00:46:04,690 --> 00:46:06,530 pick this people? Why did he pick this night? 690 00:46:07,070 --> 00:46:11,050 It's imperative at sentencing that families have the opportunity to give 691 00:46:11,050 --> 00:46:12,470 called a victim impact statement. 692 00:46:12,690 --> 00:46:17,790 It's their one opportunity that they get to look the perpetrator in the eyes and 693 00:46:17,790 --> 00:46:20,670 really tell them how they've destroyed their lives. 694 00:46:34,410 --> 00:46:35,570 Because of him. 695 00:46:36,590 --> 00:46:43,230 For beautiful, genuine, compassionate people 696 00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:47,670 were taken from this world for no reason. 697 00:46:48,250 --> 00:46:50,010 He didn't just take their life. 698 00:46:50,290 --> 00:46:53,010 He took the light that carried it into every room. 699 00:46:54,150 --> 00:47:00,070 On November 13th, 2022, a piece of my heart was ripped away. 700 00:47:01,150 --> 00:47:02,310 There's no way to... 701 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,120 ever fully described the weight of losing my sister and my best friend. 702 00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:09,160 She truly did live every day to the fullest. 703 00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:13,580 Yet her story was cut short by an act of evil. 704 00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:18,680 I believe in a God whose justice is not bound by this courtroom. 705 00:47:19,580 --> 00:47:23,640 I find peace knowing that judgment ultimately belongs to him. 706 00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:29,160 I don't know what my limits are here, but I'm really struggling, dude. 707 00:47:29,740 --> 00:47:35,900 I am Jerome. I want to just be out in the woods with you just so I can teach 708 00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:37,060 about loss and pain. 709 00:47:37,540 --> 00:47:40,880 I love God. I wouldn't take your life. That's up to him. 710 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:42,600 Oh, man. 711 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,520 You're going to go to hell. 712 00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:47,860 There's no place for you in heaven. 713 00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:49,300 Go to hell. 714 00:47:50,380 --> 00:47:53,540 Today, we are here to finish what you started. 715 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,200 Today, we are here to prove to the world that you picked the wrong families. 716 00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:03,690 The wrong state, the wrong police officers, the wrong community. 717 00:48:04,450 --> 00:48:06,790 You tried to break our community apart. 718 00:48:07,830 --> 00:48:12,130 Instead, your actions have united everyone in their disgust for you. 719 00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:15,370 A dead killer doesn't kill again. 720 00:48:15,690 --> 00:48:19,230 So while I'm disappointed the firing squad won't get to take their shots at 721 00:48:19,310 --> 00:48:23,530 I'm confident that the men in prison will have their way with you in more 722 00:48:23,530 --> 00:48:24,348 than one. 723 00:48:24,350 --> 00:48:26,210 Quick message from our youngest daughter. 724 00:48:26,650 --> 00:48:28,230 You may have received A's. 725 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,320 in high school and college, but you're going to be getting big D's in prison. 726 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,980 Disappointments like you thrive on pain, on fear, and on the illusion of power. 727 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,900 And I won't feed your beast. 728 00:48:43,500 --> 00:48:46,000 Instead, I will call you what you are. 729 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,840 Sociopath. 730 00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:49,300 Psychopath. 731 00:48:49,940 --> 00:48:53,320 Murderer. You're terrified of being ordinary, aren't you? 732 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,600 Do you feel anything at all? 733 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,600 Or are you exactly what you always feared? 734 00:48:59,420 --> 00:49:04,540 Nothing. You didn't win. You just exposed yourself as the coward you are. 735 00:49:04,820 --> 00:49:11,420 You're a delusional, pathetic, hypochondriac loser who thought you were 736 00:49:11,420 --> 00:49:16,540 smarter than everybody else. If you hadn't attacked them in their sleep, in 737 00:49:16,540 --> 00:49:20,720 middle of the night, like a pedophile, Kaylee would have kicked your fucking 738 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:24,040 ass. They are everything that you could never be. 739 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:30,950 Loved. accepted, vibrant, accomplished, brave, and powerful. 740 00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:34,950 It's not just a random crime. It's a chosen crime. 741 00:49:35,230 --> 00:49:38,350 It's an act that someone chose to do to complete strangers. 742 00:49:38,610 --> 00:49:42,590 And that type of act is really hard for the human mind to grasp. 743 00:49:43,390 --> 00:49:45,430 Unless he was emulating Ted Bundy. 744 00:49:46,170 --> 00:49:50,170 Which could be the case. I don't see this as this grandiose thing where he 745 00:49:50,170 --> 00:49:54,810 trying to get away with it. I think he had this compulsion, this need, this 746 00:49:54,810 --> 00:50:00,250 necessity to do it. And he's probably always wanted to do it and finally said, 747 00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:01,490 it. I'm going to do it. 748 00:50:02,490 --> 00:50:06,270 You know, a lot of people thought that this story was over after the formal 749 00:50:06,270 --> 00:50:07,870 sentence saying, not the case. 750 00:50:08,170 --> 00:50:13,590 We have learned so much more information about who Brian Koberger was before 751 00:50:13,590 --> 00:50:15,110 these killings. And I will tell you. 752 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,860 The details are incredibly chilling. 753 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,940 Police end up speaking to many of Koberger's PhD classmates at Washington 754 00:50:22,940 --> 00:50:25,940 University, and they said he made them uncomfortable. 755 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:31,280 He would often say misogynistic and homophobic things. He was very 756 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:31,919 to women. 757 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,480 You had another who said that he felt verbally kidnapped when he was stuck 758 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,260 having to speak to Brian Koberger in the reports. 759 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,680 They revealed that there were 13, 13 formal complaints made against Brian 760 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,920 Koberger in the months before these killings. 761 00:50:47,620 --> 00:50:54,580 During the quiet morning hours of November 13, 2022, a faceless coward 762 00:50:54,580 --> 00:50:59,720 breached the tranquility of six beautiful young people and senselessly 763 00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:00,740 slaughtered four of them. 764 00:51:01,540 --> 00:51:06,380 Even if I could force him to speak, which legally I cannot, how could anyone 765 00:51:06,380 --> 00:51:08,720 ever be assured that what he speaks is the truth? 766 00:51:09,550 --> 00:51:12,290 I hereby sentence Mr. Kohlberger as follows. 767 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:14,650 On count one, burglary. 768 00:51:15,290 --> 00:51:16,410 Ten years fixed. 769 00:51:17,230 --> 00:51:21,630 First degree murder. I sentence the defendant to a fixed term of life 770 00:51:21,630 --> 00:51:23,870 imprisonment without the possibility of parole. 771 00:51:24,390 --> 00:51:29,330 The sentences on count one, two, three, four, and five shall run consecutively 772 00:51:29,330 --> 00:51:30,330 to one another. 773 00:51:30,570 --> 00:51:32,470 I think what most people are asking is the why. 774 00:51:32,690 --> 00:51:34,910 You know, it's something we're just never going to know for sure. 775 00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:39,940 Crimes like this, where he seemed to want to try to prove something to 776 00:51:40,340 --> 00:51:46,260 this is the type of ego that sort of forces people one day to talk about it. 777 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,160 He's going to want the attention. He's going to want to talk about it. For now, 778 00:51:50,180 --> 00:51:51,180 we have to wait. 779 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:59,280 The evidence suggested that there was a reason that this particular 780 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,280 house was chosen. 781 00:52:00,420 --> 00:52:02,080 What that reason is, we don't know. 782 00:52:11,890 --> 00:52:13,790 I have to be perfectly candid. 783 00:52:14,330 --> 00:52:17,710 I don't believe that there's anything that would come out of his mouth that 784 00:52:17,710 --> 00:52:18,710 would be the truth. 785 00:52:19,220 --> 00:52:22,780 After the sentencing, we got almost a treasure trove of new information that 786 00:52:22,780 --> 00:52:26,240 hadn't had before, and it really shed a new light at the brutality of these 787 00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:29,780 crimes. It included information in regards to a potential stalker that was 788 00:52:29,780 --> 00:52:31,140 around the house prior to the murders. 789 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,460 Also, there was an incident where the door was off the frame and needed to be 790 00:52:34,460 --> 00:52:39,240 fixed. In addition, witnesses saw Kaylee's dog barking into the woods with 791 00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:40,240 explanation. 792 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:46,620 Brian Kohlberger groomed Kaylee's dog Murphy, training him to his scent and 793 00:52:46,620 --> 00:52:51,140 face so that he wouldn't cause an alarm when Kohlberger entered their premises 794 00:52:51,140 --> 00:52:55,800 to unalive them? What? The way this is premeditated is crazy work. 795 00:52:56,100 --> 00:53:01,860 He just had extreme obsessive behaviors, like with his mother and father, 796 00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:08,500 with the abnormal porn searches, serial killers. 797 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:14,720 I believe by looking at his computer that he was paranoid in the end. I don't 798 00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:18,240 think he was just resting easy thinking he got away with these murders. I think 799 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:20,520 he knew that people were coming for him. 800 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:35,200 That home on King Road is now just an empty lot. It was torn down more than a 801 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,200 year after the murders. 802 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:43,680 All that's left is just a memory of the horrors that happened that November 9th. 803 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:52,760 That person who did that horrible, horrible thing is now never going to see 804 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,600 free light of day ever again. That's what's important. I think I'm hoping 805 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,080 that'll help start bring some closure. 806 00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:01,820 We can begin to move on and the healing can begin. 807 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,180 My heart still goes out to the families. 808 00:54:04,460 --> 00:54:06,420 This will never end for them. 809 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,760 I pray for their peace and healing. 810 00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:15,960 All crimes are senseless, but this one is one of the more heinous and senseless 811 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,160 that I have ever seen. 812 00:54:18,460 --> 00:54:25,140 You had four beautiful young people who went to bed and they were murdered 813 00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:28,400 in a place where they should have felt safe. 814 00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:35,080 Evil walked into that house on King Road and stole their lives and their 815 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,080 promise. 816 00:54:36,430 --> 00:54:38,530 And ended it all for no reason. 817 00:54:39,330 --> 00:54:40,370 I love you. 818 00:54:42,570 --> 00:54:44,130 My name's Stephen Gonsalves. 819 00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:48,850 I'm Kaylee's older brother. She was my little sister, my friend, the middle 820 00:54:48,850 --> 00:54:52,510 child in the heart of our family. There are no words that can fully describe her 821 00:54:52,510 --> 00:54:53,510 spirit. 822 00:54:53,650 --> 00:54:55,310 But if you knew her, you knew joy. 823 00:54:55,570 --> 00:54:56,570 You knew light. 824 00:54:56,770 --> 00:54:59,910 You knew someone who made everything better just by being in the room. 825 00:55:00,610 --> 00:55:02,970 Maddie was our purpose and our hope. 826 00:55:03,170 --> 00:55:05,330 We remain lost without her. 827 00:55:05,850 --> 00:55:06,870 But we will find our way. 828 00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:12,390 My beautiful daughter, Zanna Kernodle. My daughter was beautiful both inside 829 00:55:12,390 --> 00:55:18,710 out. She possessed love for those around her and had a light so bright it will 830 00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:20,390 live on forever in our hearts. 831 00:55:20,890 --> 00:55:27,170 This moment isn't about you. It's about justice for Zanna, Ethan, Kaylee, and 832 00:55:27,170 --> 00:55:31,510 Maddie. It's about honoring the beautiful people they were and still are 833 00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:32,510 God's eyes.